128. [129.] I was later taken beyond the Muslims to some gentiles who dwelled in the eastern zone, and it was granted me to speak with them. They said that they were sorrowful that the Divine does not appear to them, even though they think about the Divine and talk about Him, hoping therefore that, if there is a God, He would send them someone to teach them. But they had long waited for this in vain, they said, lamenting that He had perhaps deserted them, and thus they saw no other outcome for them but to perish. However, I then heard angels speaking with them from heaven, saying that God could not be shown to them because they were unwilling to believe that God was born a man in the world or that He assumed a humanity, and until they believed this, God could not be shown to them, nor could they be taught, because this is the primary tenet of all revelation. The gentiles said that they did in fact believe that God is a person, but that they could not comprehend His having been born a man in the world. They received the reply, however, that He was not born a man like any other, since He was not born of a human father but of Jehovah as the father, and this by means of a virgin, and consequently He was not like any other person; for a person's soul from a human father is a vessel recipient of life, while the Lord's soul from Jehovah as the father is life itself, which gives life to all others. The difference is as that between the human and the Divine, between the finite and the infinite, or between the created and the not created, they were told; and because the Lord was such in respect to his soul, His body could not help but become like the soul after He cast off that element of His body which He had from His mother. Therefore He also rose in respect to His whole body, neither did He leave anything of it in the tomb, as happens in the case of all other people, who rise only in respect to their spirit, and never in respect to their material body. These gentiles were told further that the Divine itself, as it is in itself, which is infinite, could not but cast off the finite element which came from the mother and put on the infinite one from the Father, thus the Divine. They said that they had not known anything else than that He was, like any other person, born of a human father, and thus had died, and had afterward been accepted by people as God, and that they now knew that the Lord was not such a person as others are. After receiving these explanations they were divided, and those who accepted the belief were instructed by angels in regard to the other constituents of faith and love.