While walking they first turned their faces to the east, where they saw the sun shining in its strength, and when they were under its direct rays, the novitiates asked the angels about that sun, whether it was the sun which they had seen in the former world, since its altitude above us and also its magnitude equals that; it grows red also and burns from fire in a similar manner, and also heat and light proceed from it in a like manner; and if it be the same sun are we not in nature? Whence is nature except from its own sun? But the angels said, "This sun is not the sun of the natural world, but the sun of the spiritual world. From this sun is our universe; from its light and heat angels live and spirits live; from its light both we and they have understanding and wisdom; from its heat both we and they have will and love. The essence of this sun is pure love, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the God of heaven and earth, and is one with God the Father, is in the midst of it.