8546. On one other occasion I talked to spirits belonging to the planet Jupiter about the Lord. I said that no one can do anything good from himself, only from the Lord, who is Goodness itself and therefore the fountain of all good. They replied in an unassuming way that they suppose they can do good from themselves; they do not know anything different. But when they were shown that all good comes solely from the Lord, they said that they had spoken in an ordinary way, whereas I had stated the matter in a heavenly manner, and that their angels think in the same manner, as they themselves do also to the extent that they become angels. They added that it is simpler to speak in that ordinary way. I was allowed to answer them that the Lord leaves those who lead simple and innocent lives to do so, provided that they know that no good at all comes from themselves, only from the Lord