4615. CONCERNING THE WORSHIP OF GOD: THAT [AS IT EXISTS WITH MANY] IT IS AN EXTERNAL MATTER. There was a certain one with whom I had some acquaintance in the life of the body. I talked with him; and this with a perception as to what manner of man he was, and thus, of what quality are very many others: namely, that Divine worship [with him] is an external matter, which does not affect the man; thus, that the worship does not penetrate to his interiors, nor even to his exteriors, but that it is something externally added, which happens because it is customary from infancy, and because man is judged, from that, by others, as to what his character is. Hence their worship in externals scarce affects aught of their interiors, to wit, of their ideas, still less of the affections; when, nevertheless, worship, above all other things, ought to affect man, because, thence, he has life after death.