1422. And when I asked them from which planet they were, because I had noticed they were not from ours, they did not want to tell me this, or the fact that they had been clothed with a body. They did not like to think of themselves as having been on some earth or clothed with a body, because it is contrary to their principles to think, much less to say anything about bodily and earthly matters. And when I portrayed to them meadows, wheat fields, forests, rivers, they turned them at once into almost opposite things. For example, they darkened the meadows and as it were filled them with snakes. They also blackened the waters, not wanting me to look at clear water. And while I was wondering why this was so, why their waters were so black, I heard it was for the reason that according to their systems and laws, they are not allowed to think about such things, but only about realities. So they accept higher knowledge of matters that occur in heaven, but not those which occur on the earths.