1203. Since this is a very harmful thing, they are separated from heaven for just as long. And when toward the end of life, they live immersed in sexual desire alone, without true marriage love, and when they die in this condition, they are gravely punished after this life. For there are spirits who speak in a four beat, pulsating manner [see 1031, 1036, 1127, 1131], but more quickly and fluently than the rest, coming to the provinces of the generative organs in a person or a spirit. They explore to see whether they are like that, and if they are, they sink down from that province together with that spirit or soul, to a middle depth, a little from the middle line in front, opposite to the innermost. They spoke with me. There they are laid on their back on linen sheets with their head leaning back, and it is as if their chests are opened up, and they are treated cruelly. But I did not see the punishment, only that afterwards they are turned over with their head down, and their outward or bodily elements are drawn out, and a long chain of them appear to be pulled upwards. Their inward elements, however, are led upwards, that is, their spiritual part. In this way they are divested of that profane passion for having sex only for the sake of lust by itself, without any longing for children. For so they are killed by the spirits who had spoken out saying they want to kill them. It is the intention of these spirits to kill such people, and that is why they lay them face down and seemingly cut them up with knives. The souls do think they are being killed, but in this way they are divested of that passion. 1748, 7 March.