2793. 'And I and the boy will go over there' means the Divine Rational in a state of truth, equipped for the severest and inmost conflicts brought about by temptations, 'the boy' being the Divine Rational in that particular state. This becomes clear from the representation of 'Isaac' as the Divine Rational; but here - since the name 'Isaac' is not used, nor the expression 'my son', as previously, but 'the boy' - as the Divine Rational in that particular state, to be dealt with in what follows shortly.