I was conveyed to yet another planet in the universe outside our solar system, which was accomplished by means of changes in the state of my mind, thus changes as to my spirit. For as stated several times before, the only way in which a spirit is conveyed from one place to another is by means of changes in the state of the spirit's interiors, though these changes still seem to him to be like movements from place to place or journeys. The changes I experienced then went on continuously for about ten hours before I had passed from my state of life and arrived at their state of life, thus before I had been conveyed there as to my spirit. Such changes taking place one after another in the state of someone's mind until it approaches the state of the mind of another who is so far away can be accomplished only by the Lord. I was carried eastwards away to my left and seemed to be gradually lifted up above the horizontal plane. I was also given a clear view of my progress away from the previous place, till at length those from whom I had departed were no longer in sight; and in the meantime I talked on the way about various matters to the spirits who accompanied me.