82. Those who, while thinking of God, think of the Lord, have a fixed idea. But many who think of God the Father have an indeterminate idea, easily acknowledging nature as God. So, in the other life, it is granted them to be seated above on a high throne, someone who calls himself God the Father and near by or elsewhere some other spirit called His Son. This is allowed to those people lest, from an indeterminate idea of God, they become fools and insane. Moreover, I can assert that many, who are able to reason intelligently, determine their idea in accordance with him on high, and take orders from him. He is a certain bearded* man from some part or other. For the most part, the people there are those who desired that they should be worshipped as supreme, but still there are those among them who do not acknowledge the Lord. In a word, their thoughts at length become such that they believe there is no God, and so they are sent into hell. Some say that God is everywhere, but it has been shown that the Divine Proceeding is everywhere, as the heat and light from the sun. Yet it is foolish to say that the sun, as to its body, is everywhere. * See AC 1124; 10711 for similar references to "barbatus". Tr. 39