As there are societies in heaven and the angels live as men they have also dwellings and these differ in accordance with each one's state of life. They are magnificent for those in a higher state of dignity and less magnificent for those in a lower state. I have several times talked with angels about the dwellings in heaven, saying that scarcely anyone at this day would believe that they have dwellings and homes, some because they do not see them, some because they do not know that angels are men, and some because they believe that the angelic heaven is the heaven which is seen around them with their eyes and as this appears empty and they suppose that angels are ethereal forms, they conclude that they live in the ether. Moreover, they do not comprehend that there are in the spiritual world such things as are in the natural world, because they know nothing about what is spiritual. [2] The angels said that they know that such ignorance prevails at this day in the world, and, to their surprise, chiefly within the Church, and more with the intelligent there than with those whom they call simple. They said further that it may be known from the Word that angels are men, since those who have been seen have been seen as men. Also the Lord Who took upon Himself the whole Human appeared in like manner. It may be known also that, as angels are men, they have homes and dwellings, and do not fly about in the air as some think in their ignorance which the angels call insanity, and that although called spirits they are not winds. This they said may be apprehended if only men will think independently of their acquired notions about angels and spirits as they do when the question of whether it is so is not being investigated or directly considered. For everyone has a general idea that angels are in the human form, and that they have dwellings which are called heavenly habitations and that these surpass earthly habitations in magnificence. But this general idea which is from an influx of heaven is Instantly annihilated when the question whether it is so is made the central object of thought. This occurs chiefly with the learned who by their self-intelligence have closed up heaven for themselves and the way of light therefrom. [3] The same is true of the belief in the life of man after death. When one speaks of it, not thinking at the same time about the soul from worldly learning or from the doctrine of its reunion with the body, he believes that after death he is to live as a man, among angels if he has lived well, and that he will then see magnificent things and perceive joys. But as soon as he turns his thoughts to the doctrine of reunion with the body, or to his theory about the soul, and the question whether the soul be such, and thus whether this can be true, then his former idea is dissipated.