1685. And so, since they had had no other joys in life than these, and because they looked forward to similar, but more perfect ones in the afterlife, therefore it is no wonder that they enjoy, treasure and love them. Similar and more perfect buildings are portrayed to them in their heaven, about which some said that they were aware that the essential joy does not lie in those things themselves, but in the things which result from them and are contained within them. Moreover, their aversion for bodily matters such as their own bodies again became evident to me from a feeling of uneasiness, like the previous one, that came up in me because of the aversion our spirits have for them and they have for our spirits, as you may see mentioned earlier [1672q/f].