1620. The spirits, indignant because they were being compelled, as said before [1612], also wanted to be in heaven, where they strive to be. But when brought into heaven, they said that they knew nothing, being absorbed in a general mental image, and consequently [heaven] speaks through them as if separately from them. It was the same earlier, when I was absorbed in a general mental image [1562], and the speaking, which I heard, was within the general idea, from others, not from myself. This was the case also with these spirits when they were admitted into heaven, as they said, and as they are now affirming.